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Everything You Wanted to Know about Social Engineering -- But Were Afraid to Ask...


Next, someone misconfigured Shipley's mail list server to bounce complaints of bad addresses to the self-described hackers on that list. The bounces looked like this:

Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:55:52 -0400
From: "mail-daemon" <postmaster@antionline.com>
Subject: Returned Mail: User Unknown
To: dc-stuff@dis.org
Reply-to: null@antionline.com
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
(snip)
X-Mailer: Internet Anywhere Message Server Version: 2.3. Build: 10019
(snip)
The following recipient did not receive this message: aarow@techbroker.com

----- Original message follows -----
(snip)

On May 12, 1999, in a post to the Def Con list, Shipley either acted out of ignorance or else tried to trick the readers who weren't in on the social engineering trick into believing it was our fault that the bad addresses were bouncing to the mail list. "As of a day or two ago, brad and JP (both from @antionline.com addresses) were subscribed to the list. Yet neither has taken care of this foul mail loop."

Brian Martin chimed in: "Further tribute to their glaringly obvious incompetance. Isnt there a law against incompetance? If not, I shall have to ask my duly elected officials to draft one - ex-post facto."

You probably know enough to recognize that it is the responsibility of the sysadmin of a mail list to configure it so that bad mail addresses do not bounce to the readers of the list. You know it is the responsibility of a mail list owner to figure out how to configure the system to allow people to automatically unsubscribe. You know enough to realize that the most likely hypothesis is that Shipley and Martin must have been only pretending to not know how to run a mail list. Remember, I can't prove it, however…

Meanwhile, Martin (under his handle "cult hero") complained to Vranesevich's upstream provider, Stargate, that he was attacking the Def Con mail list:

Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 04:40:10 -0600 (MDT)
From: cult hero <jericho@dimensional.com>
To: hostmaster@STARGATE.NET
cc: postmaster@techbroker.com, postmaster@antionline.com
Subject: Inactive administration
X-NoSpam: You do not have consent to spam me.
X-Attrition: Attrition is only good when forced. http://www.attrition.org
X-©: This e-mail copyright 1999 by jericho@dimensional.com where applicable
X-Encryption: rot26

Greetings. Below you will find mail originating from antionline.com.

This mail loop has been occuring for over one week now with no response or resolution from Antionline staff. At the time of this mail, two subscribers from the antionline domain (brad@ and jp@) are on the mail list, and one has answered other personal mail in the interim (ie: he is not on vacation or away from office). Further, one of the admins for techbroker.com is also on the list, and has done nothing to resolve the mail loop despite repeated complaints from list subscribers.

Martin also posted to the Def Con list "Why do I think this is yet another publicity stunt designed to get more free book material from Meinel?" It almost seemed that he was begging me to write about this in my next book. OK, Martin, you win, you got into my next book, Uberhacker!, for this!

I actually was disappointed in Martin's weak attempt to get Antionline in trouble. I had thought he was more ingenious than this. Of course the sysadmins at Stargate recognized the mass subscriptions of nonexistent Antionline and Techbroker users was a mail bomb attack against us, and most certainly not an attack of us against the Def Con list.

However, Shipley and Martin did succeed at fooling some of the self-described hackers on their list. For example, one poor sucker wrote:

From: rooster@Rage.Resentment.org
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:53:02 -0700 (PDT)
To: John Vranesevich <jp@antionline.com>
cc: dc-stuff@dis.org
Subject: Re: Returned Mail

So, let me get this straight. You have no idea how to run a mail system, so the dc-stuff admins need to help cover your incompetence?

gotcha

--rooster

Meanwhile, the break-in attempts and DOS attacks continued. June 1st, 1999, a DOS attack kept Antionline down for the longest stretch of time yet, 3 hours 54 minutes .

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