Happy Hacker Digest March 4-5, 1997
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
o NEW HACKER ZINE
o SHOULD WE BE AFRAID OF HACKERS?
o HACKER/PHREAKER (h/p) NEWSLETTER/WEB SITES
o IP NAME QUESTION
o MORE ON WIN95STARTUP SCREEN
o GOT PERMISSION TO HACK
o WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING NEWBIE?
o GOT THE PASSWD, BUT...
o A PINE QUESTION
o MORE X-HACKS
o EMAIL BY TELNET
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*** New Hacker Zine
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Moderator:
od^phreak <butler@tir.com>, who wrote the recent
Overdosed Unix posts, has restarted the K.R.A.C.K. hacking
ezine. This is for intermediate hackers, and focuses on
Unix.
There is some use of bad language, and no warning about
the
legality of what it teaches. Parental discretion advised.
To
subscribe, email butler@tir.com with message "subscribe."
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*** Should We Be Afraid of Hackers?
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<Anonymous>
Hello Carolyn: I sometimes see you saying things like "Now
if you
do such and such to a REAL hacker you might get some unpleasantries
happening to you." I'm fairly new, and I'm curious
exactly as to
what hackers can do to someone if provoked enough. I'm
aware of
email-bombing (not that its hacking, but a pain in the
butt), but
what else can one of the "elite" guys do to someone?
I'd like to
get a clear picture, none of that crap from the movie
"hackers"
(where they made buddy dead, and that stupid cookie monster
virus
etc...). A friend of mine caught someone attempting
to drive up
his phone bill. My friend saw this guy (who he knew
and hated) in
a car in front of his house with wires attached to one
of his phone
boxes. The guy wound up in the hospital, and my
friend got charged
with assault. Don't know about the punishment the
guy got from the
phreaking though :). Anyways if you could shed some light
on it i'd
appreciate it.
Moderator:
There are several books that detail the fallout from hacker
wars:
_Takedown_ by Tsutomo Shimomura and John
Markoff (Hyperion,
1996, paperback, 494 pages, $5.99).
_The Cyberthief and the Samurai_, by
Jeff Goodell, Dell, 1996,
paperback, 328 pages, $7.99.
_The Fugitive Game: Online with Kevin
Mitnick_ by Jonathan
Littman (Little, Brown and Company,
1996, 1997, paperback, 397
pages, $13.95).
The first of these makes out Kevin Mitnick to be a big
time
computer criminal. But if you read between the lines you
will
realize it was actually a hacker war between Tsutomo Shimomura
and
his friends vs Mitnick and Mitnick's friends.
Goodell and Littman both marshal an impressive body of
evidence to
show that Mitnick was guilty, at worst, of making free
cellular
phone calls and being a generalized pest. They make the
hacker war
nature of the conflict more obvious. It becomes clear
to the reader
that when Tsutomo and Markoff (who was mad at Mitnick
for snooping
in his account at The Well) got sufficiently angry, they
were happy
to use their investigative talents to put Mitnick in jail.
But please don't get the idea that hackers are in general
dangerous. My experience is that for every destructive
GALF type
there are 100 hackers who are polite and helpful.
The biggest danger in hacker wars is that when you do something
illegal, history tells us that many hackers will work
hard and very
effectively to help the authorities catch you.
Remember -- a popular career path for hackers is to become
computer
security professionals. So that is one reason I don't
want anyone
emailing me anything that could get them in trouble if
a law
enforcement agent were to read it. You never know who
is reading
your email to me.
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*** HACKER/PHREAKER (h/p) NEWSLETTER/WEB SITES
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From: the mechanic <mechanic@javanet.com>
Well, I would like to inform everyone from the HH mailing
list, of
the site for the h/p group I write for. We write about
a lot of h/p
related stuff, but would like to get it spread around
more, so I
thought this would be a good place to post it.
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article, or
if you are interested.
later.
[mechanic DMS]
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*** IP NAME QUESTION
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<Anonymous>
I recently ran across a machine name that, when pinged,
returned a
different name. ("Ping -a www.fred.com" returns "pinging
george.jet.com...")
Naturally, my curiosity was aroused. So, I tried Telnetting
into a
couple of its ports. To my disgust, Nothing was
doin'. Except for
2 ports, FTP and HTML. When I FTPed in, my connection
was refused!
Arg!
So... I Telnetted into the FTP port and was logged in anonymously.
I typed HELP and got a list of available commands. But
When I tried
some of the available commands, it said either "Command
not
implemented" or something like "huh? that's not
a command". So
what is up here? None of its commands work.
Going to the HTML port, I get this:
HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
Server: Netscape-Enterprise/2.01
Then <Your server sent something
ours doesn't understand>
Then I got booted off.
BTW- The machines Telnet port works and gives:
UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0
Login: (doesn't allow anonymous)
So other than a brute force attack on login attempts, being
a
newbie, I am stuck. Hints on what I should learn
before
proceeding? I don't want to be spoon fed, just need
a starting
point.
ThanX
IOScream!
Moderator:
Several (and therefore different) IP numbers can map to
one IP
name, and several IP names can map to one IP number. It
isn't
unusual.
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*** MORE ON WIN95STARTUP SCREEN
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From: Joey Street <jlsjkw@flinet.com>
>Moderator: Gee, well on my Win95 operating system, the
startup
>screen uses the same file as the background screen. But
I
>suppose it is possible that other versions of Win95 are
not set
>up to do this. All I can say is I do what works. Isn't
that
>what hacking is?
Sorry for the long, semi-off topic post. I just couldn't
stand
seeing people misled.
It can't use the same file. The background has to be a
file with a
.BMP extension and the startup and shutdown screens have
.SYS
extensions. However, the graphics in the files are similar,
and it
is possible to use one as the other, with a little manipulation.
\,
so you may actually be seeing the same screen.
The startup screen (with the color bar at the bottom) is
called
logo.sys. You may or may not have one in your root directory.
If
you do not, Win95 uses the default one that is stored
in IO.SYS.
Any file placed in root named LOGO.SYS is used instead
of the
default.
The shutting down screen (first one) is a file named LOGOW.SYS
in
<windows directory>. I don't know if there is a default
for this or
not. I am pretty sure there isn't.
The shut down screen (ie: the one that says "It is now
safe to turn
off..."), is the file LOGOS.SYS in <win>. Same as above.
These files are actually bitmaps with a .SYS extension.
They are
320 x 400 pixel bitmaps in 8-bit color (256). Win95 stretches
them
to fill the screen. The motion on the startup screen is
because 95
rotates certain colors to make it seem to move, like those
moving
X-mas lights. [And no, that isn't the Unix version of
Christmas. :)
]
To make your own startup and shutdown screens, use a graphics
program like MSPaint. Set the image attributes to 640
x 480 (trust
me). Draw your picture the way you want it to look, but
don't try
to use too many colors, and certain colors may not work.
Save the
file with whatever name you want, so that you can easily
modify it,
if you want to.
Now use Edit>Select All (in MSPaint). Go to Image>Stretch/Skew
>
Horizontal enter 50. Hit OK. Check the attributes. It
should say
320 x 400 (make sure Pels is selected) -- if not, you
screwed up.
Now save the file as a 256-Color Bitmap named LOGO.SYS,
LOGOW.SYS,
or LOGOS.SYS, depending on which one you want it to be
and in the
correct directory (root for startup LOGO.SYS, <win>
for shutdown.)
That's how to make your own custom screens. To be able
to change
the screens on a regular basis, and get some more screens,
look at
SHAREWARE.COM or TUCOWS.COM and you should be able to
find freeware
or cheap shareware.
BTW, an easy way to make a new screen: open the LOGO.SYS
file, and
invert the colors. Weird.
Now for a question. Does anyone know of any retail stores
that sell
any versions of Linux? Or is it only possible to mail-order?
----
Millennium
jlsjkw@flinet.com
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*** GOT PERMISSION TO HACK
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<Anonymous>
thanks to your tip, i asked permission from my ISP sysadmin
to hack
into their system. and he agreed!
of course it helped that i know the guy, but previously,
i was
thinking of hacking without permission, which put me in
a paranoid
situation because. i knew they could always trace me if
i made a
wrong move and it would be embarrassing for me, since
i knew the
sysadmin.
so i wrote a letter broaching the subject and he agreed.
on
condition i don't destroy anything, and report to him
what i did,
how i did it, and what, if possible, could remedy the
loophole.
naturally, i agreed. the only problem though is the sysadmin
is so
good about security that they refuse to give shell accounts
and you
can't even telnet into their main systems (except for
one, whose
passwd i now have to crack).
so my question now is: if i install linux and have access
to unix
commands, this means i don't need a telnet or shell account,
right?
thanks a lot! although i think HH is a bit slow, it only
takes
patience and wait for something to turn a gem.
goodluck!
Moderator:
You're right, with Linux or any other Unix that works on
your home
computer, you can do almost anything you could with a
shell
account.
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*** WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING NEWBIE?
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From: "BeAvEr" <beaver11@themall.net>
Hello fellow GTMHH readers,
This is your good ole' friend BeAvEr and I am here to tell
you
guys a few tidbits. All I here now-a-dayz (on the
IRC, and in
GTMHH) is, "I am a newbie!" or "Don't flame me for this
newbie
question!"
What is wrong with being a newbie? I am a newbie,
I
barely know what Linux is, and I am still running under
that
wonderful Windoze. Since a majority on the net tend
to call
themselves newbies, why are they all afraid to ask questions?
Is
there no empathy in the IRC domain? To all the so
called 311313 out
there try and empathize a little with the younger "newbie"
generation.
If we ask what Linux is, don't flame us. At least tell
us to f*** off
nicely. Don't ping us with packets of 4096 till
we want to die.
Basically under where we "The Newbie Generation" is coming
from. That
is all from the BeAvEr today.
Until next time, keep the heads up and those minds aware.
Cause
you never know what's around the corner!
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From: " Jeffrey Steinbrecher" <darkling69@hotmail.com>
I have a win95 laptop, and am looking to double boot linux
on it. I
have no idea where to find linux, and only a rough idea
on how to
get it working.
If some one has a how too, including www/ftp sites to use,
please
email me at Darkling69@hotmail.com - BtW, this address
is immune to
e-mail bombs, so that's the only reason i have it up here.
I'm not
asking you to test that, just that you check out www.hotmail.com,
and get your own free account ;).
Any help with double booting linux with win95 and where
to get it
is appreciated (sp).
The Darkling
(no, I'm not a complete newbie... just not a linux person)
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*** GOT THE PASSWD, BUT...
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From: "candyman" <candyman@voicenet.com>
I have a question regarding how to view in full a password
data
base file.
Well I hacked into my ISP (with permission from the sysadmin)
and
got the passwd file and another file called pwd.db.
Now how do I view this pwd.db file? I tried Paradox 5 but
it said
the file's header is corrupted.
Another thing: in the passwd file all of the users have
" :*: " as
their password. How do I find out their password? One
of the users
also has no password " :: " but when I try to login as
that user,
the system asks for a password. Can someone help me please
?
CANDYMAN
I Am A Force Of Pure Destruction !!
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*** A PINE QUESTION
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From: "prata@boss1.bossnt.com" <prata@cyber-wizard.com>
Hello! I have a question about Pine on my Linux 2.0.27
system. I
am using Minicom with pppd to connect to my isp.
Now, I have a
shell acct on my isp's Linux box. I use Pine when
I telnet to that
box.
Is it possible to use MY Pine to send and receive email
from a
remote box when connected through ppp??
I tried setting it up, but it doesn't seem to work.
Any clues??
TIA,
Rog
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*** MORE X-HACKS
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From: <n-treeg@ix.netcom.com>
Hey, will the person who posted this please e-mail me at:
N-TREEG@mobsters.com I'd like to get some more information
on this
hack. I am on an AIX 4 system running X-windows.
I need to know
what this "magic cookie" is, more info on the 2 second,
period.
And how do you connect to another workstation? Also,
at what time
do you run the program? If you could e-mail me,
I'd really
appreciate it. I'm really interested in trying out this
hack.
Also, is there a possibility of running this hack remotely
if you
spoof your ip to be the domain of the internal network?
Thanks...
N-TREEG
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>*** X WINDOWS TRICK
>===============================================================
>
>Anonymous:
>
> I've noticed a little feature in the network
of our school
> that could be interested for "happy hackers,"
since I'm
> talking of "internal hacking" (this thing
won't work outside
> your network, I think) and it won't damage
anything.
>
> We are running a network on AIX version
4 with IBM (NCD) X
> Terminals ; the X Window version running
on this network is
> release 5
>
> Now to the interesting part : when a X workstation
closes
> its current session, there are two seconds
before the magic
> cookie is installed ; so you can open a
display to any
> workstation if you connect to it in these
two seconds.
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*** EMAIL BY TELNET
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From: Wendy Mosiman <wmosiman@feist.com>
I heard there is a way to route your e-mail using telnet
port 25...
could anyone help me out with this?
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